5 thoughts on “Q161 ” what does ‘no condemnation’ mean ?””
Lost in Francesaid:
To me condemnation is when some one is blamed or held responsible, for ever more for something they had done. For example the condemned man ate his last meal. This is the sort of thing that you here before some one is subjected to the death penalty.
What your biblical quote refers to is that in the eyes of God, no one is condemned, but they are pardoned.
Not sure how in society this can work, wrong doers need to be controlled, removed from society, for societies good, so to be condemned to a life in gaol.
Anyway as always a conflict between an ideal and a real world.
no, how this works in the world is irrellevant. its how this works between man and God that matters. once God has cleansed and changed a person, he is no more under condemnation before God. therefore he no longer needs to worry about his relationship with his heavenly Father. it isnt about society, but about whether one is free from the condemnation that holds people hostage. God will convict you if you stray, but it will always be directed at the action. condemnation is a general sense of guilt and is always directed at the person. it doesnt come from God.
k☼
andro, all have sinned and fallen short. no one is exempt. if salvation and redemption could be earned through suffering the conseqences, we wouldnt need a savior. the problem is, the consequences are more than we can pay. ‘being a bad person’ isnt really the determining factor. good persons have fallen short too. who wants to be the best person that ever was lost? falling short is still short of perfection, and anything less than perfection cannot survive the presence of God.
this is where the good news comes in. God, through Jesus, paid the price and took the penalty in our place. in exchange, He gives us His righteousness as a free gift. thats why its so different from religion, which is based on a reward system. the problem with religion is, who determines what standard one must reach to adequately atone for one’s badness? who has the right to make that call? how do you know if its enough?
k☼
Androgothsaid:
Yes i see what you mean Kirstin,
sorry for the late reply on this one
I have been having issues and glitches
on my Space but finally I think that it
is now sorted out although I have now
got a different username so all those
old comments are no longer valid 😦
This comment will get you transported
into my Space so that is something 🙂
another room 
To me condemnation is when some one is blamed or held responsible, for ever more for something they had done. For example the condemned man ate his last meal. This is the sort of thing that you here before some one is subjected to the death penalty.
What your biblical quote refers to is that in the eyes of God, no one is condemned, but they are pardoned.
Not sure how in society this can work, wrong doers need to be controlled, removed from society, for societies good, so to be condemned to a life in gaol.
Anyway as always a conflict between an ideal and a real world.
no, how this works in the world is irrellevant. its how this works between man and God that matters. once God has cleansed and changed a person, he is no more under condemnation before God. therefore he no longer needs to worry about his relationship with his heavenly Father. it isnt about society, but about whether one is free from the condemnation that holds people hostage. God will convict you if you stray, but it will always be directed at the action. condemnation is a general sense of guilt and is always directed at the person. it doesnt come from God.
k☼
This is interesting…
if one has been a bad person
then one must live with it, and
suffer the consequences…
Androgoth XXx
andro, all have sinned and fallen short. no one is exempt. if salvation and redemption could be earned through suffering the conseqences, we wouldnt need a savior. the problem is, the consequences are more than we can pay. ‘being a bad person’ isnt really the determining factor. good persons have fallen short too. who wants to be the best person that ever was lost? falling short is still short of perfection, and anything less than perfection cannot survive the presence of God.
this is where the good news comes in. God, through Jesus, paid the price and took the penalty in our place. in exchange, He gives us His righteousness as a free gift. thats why its so different from religion, which is based on a reward system. the problem with religion is, who determines what standard one must reach to adequately atone for one’s badness? who has the right to make that call? how do you know if its enough?
k☼
Yes i see what you mean Kirstin,
sorry for the late reply on this one
I have been having issues and glitches
on my Space but finally I think that it
is now sorted out although I have now
got a different username so all those
old comments are no longer valid 😦
This comment will get you transported
into my Space so that is something 🙂
Have a very happy
4th of July Kirstin 🙂
Androgoth XXx